Saturday, October 27, 2012

இயேசு ஒரு யூத தீவிரவாதி தானே?

புதிய ஏற்பாடு புராணக் கதைகளைத் தவிர இயேசு என ஒரு நபர் வாழ்ந்தார் என்பதற்கு ஆதாரம் ஏதும் கிடையாது.
 
புதிய ஏற்பாடு புராணக் கதைகளை நேர்மையாய் ஆராய்ந்தால் -எழுதியவர்களுக்கு உண்மையான ஏசு பற்றி அறியாது- செவிவழி கதையையே புனைந்தனர் என்பது அறிஞர்கள் ஏற்பது.

The earliest witnesses wrote nothing’ there is not a Single book in the New Testament which is the direct work of an eyewitness of the Historical Jesus. Page-197, -A Critical Introduction to New Testament. Reginald H.f. Fuller. Professor OF New Testament, Union Theological Seminary NewYork 
அதாவது ஏசுவுடன் பழகியோர் ஏதும் எழுதி வைக்கவில்லை; புதிய ஏற்பாட்டு நூல்கள் 27ல் ஒன்று கூட வரலாற்று ஏசுவினோடு பழகிய யாரும் எழுதியது இல்லை, என அமெரிக்க நூயுயார்க் பைபிளியல் பேராசிரியர் ரெஜினால்ட் புல்லர் தன் நூலில் உறுதி செய்கிறார்.


சுவிசேஷங்களின் தன்மையை உணர்ந்து, உண்மையிலேயே ஏசு வாழ்க்கையின் நம்பிக்கைக்குறியது என ஏற்கலாம் எனில்- ரோம் ஆட்சியின் கீழ் இஸ்ரேல்-யூதர்கள் அடிமைப்பட்டு இருந்தபோது, ரோமன் கவர்னர் பொந்தியூஸ் பிலாத்துவினால் ரோமிற்கு எதிரான ஆய்தக் கலகம் செய்யும் போராளிகளுக்கான மரண தண்டனையான தூக்கு மரத்தில் தொங்கும் தண்டனை பெற்றார், என்பது மட்டுமே.
 

இயேசுவின் கைது நிகழ்ச்சியின் போது


 
மாற்கு14:45 யூதாசு  வந்ததும் உடனடியாக இயேசுவைஅவரை அணுகி, ' ரபி ' எனக் கூறிக்கொண்டே அவரை முத்தமிட்டான்.46 அவர்களும் அவரைப் பற்றிப் பிடித்துக் கைது செய்தனர்.47 அருகில் நின்று கொண்டிருந்தவர்களுள் ஒருவர் தம் வாளை உருவி, தலைமைக் குருவின் பணியாளரைத் தாக்கி அவருடைய காதைத் துண்டித்தார்.
இந்தக் காது வெட்டுபவர் இயேசுவின் நெருங்கிய சீடர் பேதுரு என மற்ற சுவிகள் சொல்கின்றன.அப்போஸ்தலர்கள் ஆயுதம் ஏந்தியவர்கள் என்பது  தெளிவாகும்.


இயேசுவைக் கைது செய்தது யார்?
 

யோவான்18:2 அவரைக் காட்டிக் கொடுத்த யூதாசுக்கு அந்த இடம் தெரியும். ஏனெனில், இயேசுவும் அவருடைய சீடர்களும் அடிக்கடி அங்குக் கூடுவர்.3 ரோமன் படைப் பிரிவினரையும் தலைமைக் குருக்களும் பரிசேயரும் அனுப்பிய காவலர்களையும் கூட்டிக் கொண்டு யூதாசு விளக்குகளோடும் பந்தங்களோடும் படைக்கலங்களோடும் அங்கே வந்தான்.
12 ரோமன் படைப்பிரிவினரும் ரோமன் ஆயிரத்தவர் தலைவரும் யூதர்களின் காவலர்களும் இயேசுவைப் பிடித்துக் கட்டி,13 முதலில் அவரை அன்னாவிடம் கொண்டுசென்றார்கள்.



முதலில் புனைந்த மாற்கும் அவர் கதையையே தொடர்ந்த மத்தேடுயுவும் லூக்காவும்- ரோமன் படைவீரர்கள், ஆயிரம் வீரர் தலைவர் என்பதை மறைத்தனர்.

ரோமன் ஆயிரம் வீரர் தலைவர்-படைவீரர்கள் யூத மதத் தலைவர்கள் ஆனைக்கு உட்பட்டவர் அல்ல, ரோமன் கவர்னர் பிலாத்து ஆணையில் தான் கைது செய்திருக்க வேண்டும்.

விசாரணையின்போது கூறப்பட்ட குற்றம்

 
லூக்கா 23:1 திரண்டிருந்த மக்கள் அனைவரும் எழுந்து இயேசுவைப் பிலாத்தின்முன் கொண்டு சென்றனர்.2 ' இவன் நம் மக்கள் சீரழியக் காரணமாக இருக்கிறான்; சீசருக்குக் கப்பம் கட்டக்கூடாது என்கிறான்; தானே மெசியாவாகிய அரசன் என்று சொல்லிக் கொள்கிறான். இவற்றையெல்லாம் நாங்களே கேட்டோம் ' என்று அவர்கள் இயேசுவின் மேல் குற்றம் சுமத்தத் தொடங்கினார்கள்.3 பிலாத்து அவரை நோக்கி, ' நீ யூதரின் அரசனா? ' என்று கேட்க, அவர், ' அவ்வாறு நீர் சொல்கிறீர் ' என்று பதில் கூறினார்.

விசாரணையின்போது கூறப்பட்ட குற்றம்- நிருபிக்கப் பட்ட குற்றம் - தூக்குமரத்தில் தொங்கும்போது மேலே தொங்கவிடப்படும், அதை எழுதியது யார்


 
யோவான் 19:19 பிலாத்து குற்ற அறிக்கை ஒன்று எழுதி அதைச் சிலுவையின் மீது வைத்தான். அதில் ' நாசரேத்து இயேசு யூதர்களின் அரசன் ' என்று எழுதியிருந்தது.20 இயேசு சிலுவையில் அறையப்பட்ட இடம் நகரத்துக்கு அருகில் இருந்ததால் யூதருள் பலர் இந்தக் குற்ற அறிக்கையை வாசித்தனர். அது எபிரேயம், இலத்தீன், கிரேக்கம் ஆகிய மொழிகளில் எழுதப்பட்டிருந்தது.21 யூதரின் தலைமைக் குருக்கள் பிலாத்திடம், ' ″ யூதரின் அரசன் ″ என்று எழுத வேண்டாம்; மாறாக, ' யூதரின் அரசன் நான் ' என்று அவனே சொல்லிக் கொண்டதாக எழுதும் ' என்று கேட்டுக்கொண்டார்கள்.22 பிலாத்து அவர்களைப் பார்த்து, ' நான் எழுதியது எழுதியதே ' என்றான்.


கிறிஸ்து என்றால் யூதர்களின் அரசன், ராஜா தாவீது பரம்பரையில் வந்தவன், ரோமினரை வெளியேற்ற வேண்டும் என்பது மட்டுமே.

சுவிசேஷக் கதாசிரியர்கள் இறந்த யூதப் போர் வீர மேசியாவை தெய்வமாக்கியதைத் தொடர்வோம்




Wednesday, October 24, 2012

பைபிள் மனதை பாதிக்கும் அருவருப்பானது அமெரிக்கா கோர்ட்- 100 முறை தடை

பைபிளின் அருவருப்பான பொய்யான வரலாறு படிப்போரை பாதிக்கும் என 100க்கும் மேல் கோர்ட் தீர்ப்புகள் அமெரிக்காவில் வந்துள்ளது.


புனித நூல் என்ற பெயரில் தவறான போதனை, இன வெறி தூண்டும் நூல், தவறான பாலியல் போதனைகள் கொண்டதால் பல முறை பல அமெரிக்க மாநில சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட்டினால் பைபிள் தாற்காலிக‌  தடை செய்யப் பட்டது 

Bibles Banned At Walter Reed – Why?



If a man would follow, today, the teachings of the Old Testament, he would be a criminal. If he would strictly follow the teachings of the New, he would be insane.
— Robert G. Ingersoll

“Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness, that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel.”
— Age of Reason (18th century), by Thomas Paine

Nobody holds in greater contempt than I the writers, publishers, or dealers in obscene literature. One of my objections to the Bible is that it contains hundreds of grossly obscene passages not fit to be read by any decent man; thousands of passages, in my judgment, calculated to corrupt the minds of youth. I hope the time will come when the good sense of the American people will demand a bible with all obscene passages left out.
— Robert G. Ingersoll, in a letter to a friend

In Germany, lawyers moved to have the Bible banned from school

August 2000, AFP [Associated Foreign Press] revealed two lawyers in Munich had written to German Family Minister Christine Bergmann asking her to officially class the Bible among books considered dangerous for children because of its violent content.Bavarian lawyers Christian Sailer and Gert-Joachim Hetzel said in their submission “on behalf of some parents of minors” that the Bible contained passages of “a gruesomeness difficult to exceed” which are glorified as the will of God.
“It preaches genocide, racism, enmity towards Jews, gruesome executions for adulterers and homosexuals, the murder of one’s own children and many other perversities,” the submission said.
The book should therefore be kept on the “not for children” list so long as the “bloodthirsty and human rights-violating passages” were not removed.

Also available in an edited form here

“I moreover believe that any system of religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child cannot be a true system.”
— Age of Reason (18th century), by Thomas Paine

“It ain’t the parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand.”
— Mark Twain

To this day I cherish an unappeasable bitterness against the unfaithful guardians of my young life, who not only permitted but compelled me to read an unexpurgated Bible through before I was 15 years old. None can do that and ever draw a clean sweet breath again this side of the grave…
— Mark Twain

Wondering why?

Biblical Patriarchs: good rolemodels?

Moses:

According to 2 Chron. 30:16 Moses was the Man of God; yet, he…

  • murdered an Egyptian (Ex. 2:12),
  • ordered the murder of prisoners (Num. 31:17),
  • ordered the keeping of young female prisoners for several reasons (Num. 31:17),
  • led mass killings of women and children (Deut. 2:34, 3:3, 6),
  • ordered killings (Deut. 13:15, 20:13),
  • had a son out of wedlock (Ex. 2:21-22),
David:
  • He killed (1 Sam. 17:50-51 RSV, 18:7, 27, 19:8, 23:5, 30:17, 2 Sam. 8:1, 2, 5, 13),
  • ordered murders (2 Sam. 1:15, 4:5-12),
  • ordered prisoners to be killed (2 Sam. 12:2931, 1 Chron. 20:3, 2 Sam. 8:1-2),
  • committed unprovoked aggression and mass killing (1 Sam. 27:8-11, 2 Sam. 5:20, 25),
  • gave up seven of Saul’s descendants to be killed (2 Sam. 21:1-6, 9),
  • requested that Joab be killed (1 Kings 2:5-6),
  • intentionally arranged for Uriah to be killed in order to seize his wife (2 Sam. 11:14-17),
Some more Biblical characters:
  • ABIMELECH–killed a city’s inhabitants (Jud. 9:45 RSV); and murdered wantonly (Jud. 9:5);
  • ELIJAH–committed murder (1 Kings 18:40);
  • ABRAHAM– … debauched Hagar, his maidservant (Gen. 16:4), sent his maidservant and her child into the wilderness (Gen. 21:14), … and married his half-sister (Gen. 20:11-12);
From: Issue 13 of Biblical Errancy contains far more than the few excerpts above.
See also: Biblical Matriarchs in Biblical Errancy Issue No. 23

What was the character of Christ’s male ancestors?
Assuming Matthew’s genealogy to be correct, nearly all of those whose histories are recorded in the Old Testament were guilty of infamous crimes or gross immoralities.

  • Abraham married his sister and seduced her handmaid;
  • Jacob, after committing bigamy, seduced two of his housemaids;
  • Judah committed incest with his daughter-in-law;
  • David was a polygamist, an adulterer, a robber and a murderer,
  • Solomon had a thousand wives and concubines;
  • Rehoboam Abijam, Joram, Ahaziah, Jotham, Ahaz, Manasseh, Amon and Jehoiachin, are all represented as monsters of iniquity, while others are declared to have been too vile to even name in his genealogy.

What female ancestors are named in his genealogy?
Matthew: Thamar, Rachab, Ruth and Bathsheba.
Regarding these women the Rev. Dr. Alexander Walker (Woman, p. 330) says:

“It is remarkable that in the genealogy of Christ, only four women have been named:

  • Thamar who seduced the father of her late husband;
  • Rachab, a common prostitute;
  • Ruth, who, instead of marrying one of her cousins, went to bed with another of them; and
  • Bathsheba, an adulteress, who espoused David, the murderer of her first husband”

Matthew Henry, a noted Christian commentator, says:

“There are four women, and but four, named in this genealogy,…Rachab, a Canaanitess, and a harlot besides, and Ruth, the Moabitess…. The other two were adulteresses, Tamar and Bathsheba” (Commentary, Vol. V).

— The Christ, by John E. Remsberg

God causing genocide, as recounted in the Bible

Some of the passages relating to the many genocides described in the Bible, commanded by God:

Kill Everyone in 7 Nations
When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are about to enter and occupy, he will clear away many nations ahead of you: the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites. These seven nations are all more powerful than you. When the LORD your God hands these nations over to you and you conquer them, you must completely destroy them. Make no treaties with them and show them no mercy. Do not intermarry with them, and don’t let your daughters and sons marry their sons and daughters. They will lead your young people away from me to worship other gods. Then the anger of the LORD will burn against you, and he will destroy you.
(Deuteronomy 7:1-4 NLT)

120,000 Killed for God
That is why the LORD his God allowed the king of Aram to defeat Ahaz and to exile large numbers of his people to Damascus. The armies of Israel also defeated Ahaz and inflicted many casualties on his army. In a single day Pekah son of Remaliah, Israel’s king, killed 120,000 of Judah’s troops because they had abandoned the LORD, the God of their ancestors. Then Zicri, a warrior from Ephraim, killed Maaseiah, the king’s son; Azrikam, the king’s palace commander; and Elkanah, the king’s second-in-command. The armies of Israel captured 200,000 women and children from Judah and took tremendous amounts of plunder, which they took back to Samaria.
(2 Chronicles 28:5-8 NLT)

185,000 Killed by God:
The angel of the Lord went forth and struck down one hundred and eighty-five thousand in the Assyrian camp. Early the next morning they were there, all the corpses of the dead.
(Isaiah 37:36 NAB)

From: Evil Bible Quotes (for August, October and November)
This site has more of God’s statements as given in the Bible, as well as other Biblical quotes.

Our Bible reveals to us the character of our god with minute and remorseless exactness. …It is perhaps the most damnatory biography that exists in print anywhere. It makes Nero an angel of light and leading by contrast…
— Mark Twain, Reflections on Religion

Like nearly all the doctrines ascribed to Christ, the atonement is in the highest degree unjust and absurd. Referring to this doctrine, Lord Byron says:

“The basis of your religion is injustice. The Son of God the pure, the immaculate, the innocent, is sacrificed for the guilty. This proves his heroism, but no more does away with man’s sin than a schoolboy’s volunteering to be flogged for another would exculpate a dunce from negligence.”

— The Christ, by John E. Remsberg

More:

  • God is NOT pro-life, he advocates child murder, infanticide, child abuse and abortion
  • What is the ethics of the Bible? and Message of Love?
  • The Laws of the Old Testament still apply
  • Dogma, includes links to Biblical Injustice and Sin, guilt and fear
  • More sources
  • Jesus and his teachings

    The Prince of Peace?
    “Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man ‘against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s enemies will be those of his household'”.
    (Matthew 10:34-36 NAB)

    Hate Your Family
    If anyone comes to me without hating his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and even his own life, he can not be my disciple.
    (Luke 14:26 NAB)

    Jesus Doesn’t Want to Save Everyone
    And when he [Jesus] was alone, those present along with the Twelve questioned him about the parables. He answered them, “The mystery of the kingdom of God has been granted to you. But to those outside everything comes in parables, so that ‘they may look and see but not perceive, and hear and listen but not understand, in order that they may not be converted and be forgiven.'”
    (Mark 4:10-12 NAB)

    From: Evil Bible Quotes (for February, March and June)

    From The Christ by John E. Remsberg:

    Whom did he pronounce blessed?
    “Blessed are the poor in spirit” (Matthew v, 3).

    “Is poverty of spirit a blessing? Surely not. Manliness of spirit, honesty of spirit, fulness of rightful purpose, these are virtues; but poverty of spirit is a crime.”
    — Bradlaugh.

    What did Christ say respecting the intellectual character of his converts?
    “I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes” (Matthew xi, 25; Luke x, 21).
    Commenting on this expression of thanks, Celsus, who lived at the time the Four Gospels made their appearance, says:

    “This is one of their [the Christians’] rules. Let no man that is learned, wise, or prudent come among us: but if they be unlearned, or a child, or an idiot, let him freely come.

    Did he [Jesus] oppose slavery?
    All: He did not.

    “Slavery was incorporated into the civil institutions of Moses; it was recognized accordingly by Christ and his apostles.”
    — Rev. Dr. Nathan Lord, President of Dartmouth College

    “I have no doubt if Jesus Christ were now on earth that he would, under certain circumstances, become a slaveholder.”
    — Rev. Dr. Taylor of Yale

    “Christ preaches only servitude and dependence…. True Christians are made to be slaves.”
    — Rousseau

    Paul’s characterization of Christians
    “Not many wise … not many noble are called” (1 Corinthians i, 26).
    “Base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen” (28).
    “We are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things” (iv, 13).
    “We are fools for Christ’s sake” (10).

    Imagine if these were the sought-for specifications in a job advert. Not many would apply.

    More:

  • Why Jesus? by Dan Barker, formerly an evangelical fundamentalist minister, missionary and Christian songwriter. He has written the book Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist, partly online here
  • The Bible and Jesus Myth
  • Jesus and Holy War at The Christian Heritage. Shows why the Good News isn’t good and also how the prophesied Second Coming is anything but good.
  • What Would Jesus Do?
  • Why Jesus’ teachings are immoral
  • The other side of Jesus
  • The Philosophy of Christ
  • Jesus Christ – Paragon of Virtue?
  • Biblical Criticism: immorality and errancy

    Some of the sites and books that document inhumane passages and atrocities in the Bible:
    Some of the pages and books that document errors, inconsistencies and absurdities in the Bible:
    Early Criticism of Christianity
    • Celsus, on the True Doctrine: A Discourse Against the Christians by Celsus, R. Joseph Hoffmann
    • Porphyry’s Against the Christians: The Literary Remains by Porphyry, R. Joseph Hoffmann
    • The Christians as the Romans Saw Them by Robert Louis Wilken

    Those that are horrified by the contents of the Bible need not worry about the present state of the holy book:
    Vatican scholars prepare to rewrite the Bible – news from The Guardian, September 11, 2001
    It’s not a break with precedent, as it is what the early Churches had done throughout the early Church Councils and until centuries later. God’s infallibility and His Inerrant Word are apparently far from perfect and require constant tinkering.
    See: The Ever-Changing Word of God
    The Vatican spent decades trying to prevent scientists and scholars from getting access to theDead Sea Scrolls, because it would show how much of Jesus was a fiction. Therefore, the Vatican now plans to use the literature of the Dead Sea Scrolls to rewrite the Bible, probably in an attempt to change the character of Jesus to fit in with the community who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Gnostic literature found at Nag Hammadi(Gnosticism is older than Christianity) also poses a problem, because those works call into question the authenticity of today’s Bible, revealing that it is no more authentic than many other earlier scriptural works.
    The Vatican: rewriting and re-assembling the supposed “Word of God”. Again.

    The ethics of Hell

    You are my friends if you do what I command you. (John 15:14)
    — Jesus
    For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
    He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:17-18)

    The fact that all those who existed before the purported time of Jesus are unsaved, means there are billions of pre-Christ people languishing in Biblical Hell already. Through no fault of theirs. Then there are all the billions of people who have existed since Jesus’ unnoticed birth who never heard of him. They’ll be burning in Hell too. To this day, there are some people in unreached and nearly unknown parts of South America, Africa and Asia, who might never have done anything wrong – other than that they did not know of Christ. Finally, there’s a large chunk of people who don’t practise Christianity (or Islam) and who’ll end up in Christian (or Islamic) Hell, merely because they don’t accept the religion. And it’s hard to blame them: Jesus died for our sins which are due to the Original Sin of an alleged Adam and Eve eating a forbidden apple? (The words “Original Sin” don’t appear in the Bible.) It’s most cruel that anyone should be punished for others’ mistakes, especially since God left the apple dangling there. And being omniscient, he knew that Adam and Eve would eat it and that the Original Sin would happen, he knew it would still take a while before Jesus would come to redeem humans and that many humans would never hear of Jesus even then. Essentially, being omniscient God knew that billions upon billions of people throughout the ages would end up in the everlasting torment of Hell. And being omnipotent, he could have prevented this, but as a matter of fact, he’s the one causing it because he invented Hell to punish them. He’s the one who sent the saving Jesus (who is God himself, who then crucified himself to pardon humanity in his own eyes) to some obscure place and did not leave any factual traces of his historicity behind.

    How can the omniscient and omnipotent God punish so many people?

    Luther makes it clear that humans don’t really have free will, which makes omnipotent God ultimately culpable for man’s actions and sins:

    Free will after the Fall is nothing but a word. Even doing what in him lies, man sins mortally.
    — Martin Luther, Reformer, Protestant

    Other theologically-proficient people like Tertullian, St. Thomas Aquinas and Calvin gave the following explanations for God’s creation of Hell:

    God preordained, for his own glory and the display of His attributes of mercy and justice, a part of the human race, without any merit of their own, to eternal salvation, and another part, in just punishment of their sin, to eternal damnation.
    — John Calvin (Reformer, Protestant) in his “Institutes of the Christian Faith”

    That according to Calvin eternal punishment was inflicted randomly by the all-benevolent God is at least consistent with Biblical logic.
    Calvin is merely echoing Christian teachings that had existed since well before his time. It’s obvious that Christians from early times had also grappled with the irrationality of God punishing people who could not possibly have known of Jesus. The way they answered this clearly says much about how compassionate they were:

    You are fond of spectacles, expect the greatest of all spectacles, the last and eternal judgement of the universe. How shall I admire, how laugh, how rejoice, how exult, when I behold so many proudmonarchs, and fancied god, groaning in the lower abyss of darkness; so many magistrates, who persecuted the name of the Lord, liquefying in fiercer fires than they ever kindled against the Christians; so many sage philosophers blushing in red-hot flames with the deluded scholars; so many celebrated poets trembling before the tribunal … of Christ; so many tragedians, more tuneful in the expression of their own sufferings; so many dangers…
    — Church father Tertullian in Apologeticum (2nd century)

    Aquinas, whom the Catholic Church gave the title “Angelic Doctor”, imagined that one of the rewards of heavenly bliss is to be able to witness the suffering of the damned in hell:

    That the saints may enjoy their beatitude more fully, a perfect sight is granted them of the punishment of the damned.
    — St. Thomas Aquinas, Doctor of the Church, 13th century

    Eventually people departed from what had been some of the cherished and central beliefs of Christianity for ages: those concerning the doctrines of Hell. Not more than a couple of centuries ago, more soft-hearted Christians decided that uninformed people in places where missionaries hadn’t yet reached ought not to be punished for things they didn’t know. Thus, these Christians decided that such people will be judged by God based on how good they are. There is no Biblical support for this view, of course, but it gives them more peace of mind. However, those who have heard of the Gospel but refuse to accept it, will nevertheless be damned for ever. That means it’s more likely for unsaved populations to go to heaven if they never hear the Gospel: they merely need to be good. If they ever hear the Gospel, they need to both accept it and be good to escape Hell.
    This newly developed theory on salvation made little difference to the presumed fates of many, considering how various tribes around the world tend to respect their ancestors (which is rather reasonable) and continue to believe in their own religion and wish to go to their own afterlife to join said ancestors. Tough luck for them, Christianity promises them eternal suffering for their stubborness in accepting Jesus’ Love. God gives two options: either accept his Love or receive his eternal damnation. In court, this would be considered blackmail, but God is above the law and as Christian apologists like to claim, he’s above ethics too. And his logic is apparently above human comprehension.
    By the way, who asked the missionaries to introduce the Gospel among these people, thereby making them refuse Jesus and consequently sending them to eternal Hell? If the missionaries hadn’t done this, their unwilling flock might have had more chance of entering heaven – based on their “goodness” (according to the missionaries’ own rules on salvation).

    One man’s Hell is another man’s Heaven

    A few Christian apologists in very recent times, who know very little Christian theology and tend to pick and choose what they believe, go even further in trying to ease their conscience. They have come up with another solution, though it’s just as unsupported by the Bible:
    “Hell is the absence of God” they declare. Sometimes they further explain this by stating that those who know of God but reject his salvation, will be free of the pain of being with him (since they didn’t accept him and his love anyway) and so are eternally separated from him.
    Although this is a very recent invention, this is actually the best news of all for unreached people (and the irreligious): missionaries should adopt this explanation of Hell when they preach the Gospel. That way, the unsaved masses will find it all the more easy to refuse this God who they don’t know and don’t care about anyway. Eternal separation from such a meaningless deity is a good thing.
    As Hell is now the absence of the Biblical God, it means these people can continue thinking that they will spend their afterlife with their ancestors and their own deity/deities. Effectively, this new interpretation of Biblical Hell is pretty much the Heavens of the unsaved masses.
    Unfortunately, missionaries won’t be teaching this new interpretation of Hell very soon – it will drastically reduce the number of converts, since the carrot of Biblical Heaven is nothing without the stick of Biblical Hell-fire. If there’s no punishment or undesirable afterlife for the unsaved, then what’s the point of being saved, after all? Besides, Hell as the absence of Biblical God is merely the Christian explanation reserved for atheists in the US who object to Hell on moral grounds. Many Christians still privately believe in a literal Hell or at least great misery for non-Christians, even though they use “absence of God” when debating with rational irreligious people. That’s because nonsensical threats of eternal suffering in Hell don’t work on sensible people: an eternity of hell for only a lifetime of error equates to infinite punishment for finite sins.
    In other ways too, Hell makes little sense. Once the fires burn off your nerves the first time, you won’t feel the pain anymore. Unless God is cruel enough to keep regrowing your skin and nerves so you can continue feeling the pain… Not a definition of love by any stretch of the imagination: God ‘loves’ us so much that he sent Jesus to be crucified for our sins, and if we don’t accept him, we’ll suffer by burning forever.

    Unborn babies and unbaptised infants in Hell

    Missionaries ought not to forget to teach their charges the following:

    Unborn babes to burn forever
    The damnable doctrine of Infant Damnation was one of the most terrifying and effective impostures of the Church to drive helpless victims into the fold of Christ. Infamous enough was the earlier doctrine of exclusive salvation, that the unbaptized adult, the individual outside Church was the heir to eternal damnation. But soon the terror was extended to the just-born infant, to even the fetus in its womb. St. Augustine affirmed this atrocity with all his vehemence; all the Fathers without exception dinned it eternally, — as yet today.A treatise of the greatest authority, De Fide, long attributed to Augustine, but now known to be the work of Bishop St. Fulgentius (CE. vi, 317) thus states the horrid doctrine:

    “Be assured, and doubt not, that not only men who have attained the use of their reason, but also little children who have begun to live in their mothers’ womb and have there died, or who, having been just born, have passed away from the world without the sacrament of holy baptism, administered in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, must be punished by the eternal torture of undying fire; for although they have committed no sin by their own will, they have nevertheless drawn with them the condemnation of original sin, by their carnal conception and nativity.” (sec. 70.)
    — Doctrine of Infant Damnation, De Fide, by Bishop St. Fulgentius, 4th century

    Lecky, who quotes the passage, thus comment the effects as witnessed in practice throughout the Middle Ages:

    “Nothing indeed can be more curious, nothing more deeply pathetic, than the record of the many ways by which the terror-stricken mothers attempted to evade the awful sentence of their Church. Sometimes the baptismal water was sprinkled upon the womb; sometimes the still-born child was baptized, in hopes that the Almighty would antedate the ceremony; sometimes the mother invoked the Holy Spirit to purify by His immediate power the infant that was to be born; sometimes she received the Host or obtained absolution, and applied them to the benefit of her child. For the doctrine of the Church had wrung the mother’s heart with an agony that was too poignant for even that submissive age to bear.”Rationalism in Europe, i, 362-364.

    And all this on account of an apple eaten four thousand years before they were born; willed by the Deity who had foreordained their birth and premature death, before His Holy Church could come at the Baptismal fees!
    — Forgery in Christianity, by Joseph Wheless

    Counter-apologetics

    Apologetics is the Christian field where Christians try to talk their way around the scriptural, historical and other errors and embarassments in Christianity. Counter-apologetics, therefore, is the field where scholars refute all the nonsense generated in Apologetics.

    A few pages and sites dealing with refuting apologetics

    Books:

    • Farewell to God: My Reasons for Rejecting the Christian Faith by Charles Templeton, critiques traditional Christianity. The author used to be among the foremost of the US evangelical preachers and was a colleague and close friend of preacher Billy Graham.
    • Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist by Dan Barker who was a preacher for 19 years. Part of the book is online here.

    Creationism and other un-scientific nonsense

    • Creation Revisited by P. W. Atkins, disposes of the nonsensical arguments for Intelligent Design (i.e. Creationism).
    • The Blind Watchmaker: Why the Evidence of Evolution Reveals a Universe Without Design by Oxford biology professor Richard Dawkins who critiques the Intelligent Design argument.
    • The Age of the Earth by G. Brent Dalrymple, explores the evidence for the ancientry of our earth and universe. They’re not 6000 years old like the Bible authors caused followers to believe, even today.
    • The Vanquished Gods: Science, Religion, and the Nature of Belief by Richard Schlagel
      A discussion of biblical criticism, religious history, scientific progress and ideas, and particularly modern biology and its implications for society.



    The Constitution Times

    Hitler, Stalin, Mao...they would be so proud.
    “The two enemies of the people are criminals and government. So let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so that the second will not become the legal version of the first.” – attributed to Thomas Jefferson, although not found in any of his known writings.
    The idea that a Holy Bible would be banned anywhere in the United States of America, for any reason, is unfathomable. However, that is exactly what happened when the Navy said that Bibles could not be brought into the Walter Reed hospital. Images of burning books, during the Nazi reign of terror, come to mind. The problem is that this is America in 2011, not Germany in 1940.

    According to the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, it lifted the ban on Friday afterRep. Steve King (R-Iowa) gave a speech on the House floor. The Navy is supposedly issuing new guidelines.
    How did something like this happen? Apparently, the Navy issued new guidelines for friends and family visiting the sick and wounded soldiers at Walter Reed. Those new guidelines stated, “No religious items (i.e. Bibles, reading material, and/or artifacts are allowed to be given away or used during a visit.” But, the unanswered question is why now the new guidelines, especially before Christmas? We may never know the real answer, buried in governmental doublespeak and bureaucracy.
    When the new religious restrictions were brought to the attention of Capital Hill by the Family Research Council, that prompted the angry speech by Rep. Steve King. King stated, “That means you can’t bring in a Bible and read from it when you visit your son or your daughter, perhaps – or your wife or husband. It means a priest that might be coming in to visit someone on their deathbed couldn’t bring in the Eucharist, couldn’t offer Last Rites. This is the most outrageous affront.”
    According to a Walter Reed spokesperson, the intent was to respect religious and cultural practices of our patients and the instructions about the Bibles and reading material have been rescinded. Sound like doublespeak?

    If there is written proof that the policy has been rescinded, it has not yet surfaced. What has surfaced is a mindset that originated somewhere from that dark unidentified governmental policy producing place. Some of Rep. Kings comments are in the video below:

    http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/absurd.html

    http://catholiccitizenamerica.blogspot.in/2009/01/catholics-not-allowed-to-read-bible.html

    http://reasoning.xanga.com/1985525/item/


    Did you know that Bible reading and Bible possession was at one time "banned" by the Catholic Church?
                              The Bible
    Pope Innocent III stated in 1199:
    "... to be reproved are those who translate into French the Gospels, the letters of Paul, the psalter, etc."
    (Denzinger-Schönmetzer, Enchiridion Symbolorum 770-771)
    COUNCIL OF TOULOUSE - 1229 A.D. :
    Canon 14 - "We prohibit the permission of the books of the Old and New Testament to laymen....... expressly forbidding their having ...... parts of the Bible translated into the vulgar tongue" (Pierre Allix, Ecclesiastical History of Ancient Churches of the Albigenses, published in Oxford at the Clarendon Press in 1821.) (Council Tolosanum, Pope Gregory IX, Anno. chr. 1229. Canons 14)
    "1229 - The Inquisition of Toulouse imposed by Albigensian Crusaders forbids laymen to read the Bible."
    Source: The People's Chronology, Revised and updated, by James Trager, Copyright 1992, 1994, published by Henry Holt and Company, ISBN 0-8050-3134-0, New York, page 108.
    The Council of Tarragona of 1234, in its second canon, ruled that:
    "No one may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop within eight days after promulgation of this decree, so that they may be "burned" lest, be he a cleric or a layman, he be suspected until he is cleared of all suspicion."
    -D. Lortsch, Historie de la Bible en France, 1910, p.14.
    John Wycliffe was the very first to translate the entire Bible into English, which he completed in 1382. Wycliffe translated from the Latin Vulgate. One copy of an original manuscript is in the Bodlein Library in Oxford, England. Wycliffe's Bibles were painstakingly reproduced by hand by copyists.
    In 1408 the third synod of Oxford, England, banned English translations of the Bible.
    "It is dangerous, as St. Jerome declares, to translate the text of Holy Scriptures out of one idiom into another....... We therefore command and ordain that henceforth no one translate the text of Holy Scripture into English or any other language as a book, booklet, or tract..... or that hereafter may be made, either in part or wholly, either publicly or privately, under pain of excommunication...... He who shall act otherwise let him be punished as an abettor of heresy and error."
    (The Western Watchman, a Catholic newspaper published in St. Louis, August 9, 1894)
     At the ecumenical Council of Constance, in 1415, Wycliffe was posthumously condemned by Arundel, the archbishop of Canterbury, as "that pestilent wretch of damnable heresy who invented a new translation of the scriptures in his mother tongue."
     By the decree of the Council, more that 40 years after his death, Wycliffe's bones were exhumed and publicly burned and the ashes were thrown into the Swift river.
                            The Burning of Tyndale
    William Tyndale completed a translation of the New Testament from the Greek in 1525, which church authorities in England tried their best to confiscate and burn. After issuing a revised edition in 1535, he was arrested, spent over a year in jail, and was then strangled and burned at the stake near Brussels in October 6th, 1536.
     It is estimated today that some 90 percent of the New Testament in the 1611 King James Bible is the work of Tyndale. Tyndale was unable to complete his translation of the Old Testament before his death.
    Tyndale's New Testament was specifically prohibited, and later Wycliffe's and Coverdale's Bibles were also banned. It was decreed a crime for any unlicensed person to read or explain the Scriptures in public. Many copies of Tyndale's New Testament and Coverdale's Bible were burned in London.
    Memorandum of a proclamation made at Paul's Cross on the first Sunday in Advent, 1531, against the buying, selling or reading of the following books (in part):
    The disputation between father and the son.
    An exposition into the VII chapter of the Corinthians.
    The matrimony of Tyndal.
    A B C against the clergy.
    Ortulus animae, in English.
    A book against Saint Thomas of Canterbury.
    A book made by Friar Reye against the seven sacraments.
    An answer of Tyndal to Sir Thomas More's dialogue, in English.
    A disputation of purgatory, made by John Frythe.
    The first book of Moses, called Genesis.
    A prologue in the second book of Moses, called Exodus.
    A prologue in the third book of Moses, called Leviticus.
    A prologue in the fourth book of Moses, called Numeri.
    A prologue in the fifth book of Moses, called Deuteronomy.
    The New Testament in English, with an introduction to the epistle to the Romans.
    The sum of scripture.
    The primer in English.
    The psalter in English.
    Calendar of State Papers V, 18.
    Source: Councils and Ecclesiastical Documents relating to Great Britain and Ireland (Oxford 1869)
    Pope Pius IV had a list of the forbidden books compiled and officially prohibited them in the Index of Trent (Index Librorum Prohibitorum) of 1559. This is an excerpt:
    "....translations of books of the Old Testament may be allowed by the judgment of bishops for the use of learned and pious men only. These translations are to elucidate the Vulgate so that Sacred Scripture can be understood, but they are not to be considered as a sacred text. Translations of the New Testament made by authors of the first sections in this Index are not to be used at all, since too little usefulness and too much danger attends such reading............ Whoever reads or has such a translation in his possession without this permission cannot be absolved from his sins until he has turned in these Bibles ........Books in the vernacular dealing with the controversies between Catholics and the heretics of our time are not to be generally permitted, but are to be handled in the same way as Bible translations....."
    (Die Indices Librorum Prohibitorum des sechzehnten
    Jahrhunderts (Tübingen, 1886), page 246f.)


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