Friday, April 7, 2017

12 APOSTLES- Who were they -CHURCH KNOWS NONE

 Jesus got Baptism of repentance of sins came from Galilee to Judean desert for the same.

Mark 1:9 About that time Jesus came from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to the place where John was. John baptized Jesus in the Jordan River.
John the Baptist was arrested immediately and hence Jesus left Judea to Galilee and there he picked his Disciples 
 Mark 1:14After John was put in prison, Jesus went into Galilee and told people the Good News from God.

MARK 3: 7Jesus went away with his followers to the lake. A large crowd of people from Galilee followed them.
MARK 3: 13 Then Jesus went up on a hill and invited those he wanted to go with him. So they joined him there. 14 And he chose twelve men and called them apostles. He wanted these twelve men to be with him, and he wanted to send them to other places to tell people God’s message. 15 He also wanted them to have the power to force demons out of people. 16 These are the names of the twelve men Jesus chose:Simon (the one Jesus named Peter),17 James and his brother John, the sons of Zebedee (the ones Jesus named Boanerges, which means “Sons of Thunder”), 18 Andrew,Philip,Bartholomew,
Matthew, Thomas, James, the son of Alphaeus, Thaddaeus, Simon, the Zealot, 19 Judas Iscariot (the one who handed Jesus over to his enemies).




 Matthew 10:2-4
  Luke 6 12-16
Simon (the one Jesus named Peter),
  Simon (also called Peter)
  Simon (also called Peter)
  James son of  Zebedee
  Andrew, the brother of Peter,
Andrew, the brother of Peter,
  John brother of James
(the ones Jesus named Boanerges, which means “Sons of Thunder”)
 James, the son of Zebedee,
 James 
Andrew,  udas Iscariot (the one who handed Jesus over to his enemies
  John, the brother of James
 
John
Philip
  Philip
  Philip
Bartholomew
  Bartholomew
Bartholomew
Matthew
  Thomas
Matthew
Thomas
  Matthew, the tax collector
  Thomas
  James, the son of Alphaeus
  James, the son of Alphaeus
James, the son of Alphaeus
Thaddaeus
Thaddaeus
  Simon, the Zealot Jude
Simon, the Zealot
  Simon, the Zealot
Judas, the son of James
  Judas Iscariot (the betrayor)
Judas Iscariot (the betrayor)
Judas Iscariot (the betrayor)


The most important Disciple as per Church is PETER - Where did Jesus pick him as per Gospel Tales- there are two .
LUKE 5 Tales say Jesus picked Simon Peter in Lake of Galilee while fishing, as Jesus Magic got them more fishes.
 John 1 gives a different tale - Andrew the brother of Peter was Disciple of Baptist John and he told them that Jesus was.       
TWO TALES PUT TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND EVENTS, Which is true or both can be lies. 

  LUKE 5:1 As Jesus stood beside Lake Galilee, a crowd of people pushed to get closer to him and to hear the teachings of God. Jesus saw two boats at the shore of the lake. The fishermen were washing their nets. Jesus got into the boat that belonged to Simon. He asked Simon to push off a little from the shore. Then he sat down in the boat and taught the people on the shore.When Jesus finished speaking, he said to Simon, “Take the boat into the deep water. If all of you will put your nets into the water, you will catch some fish.”Simon answered, “Master, we worked hard all night trying to catch fish and caught nothing. But you say I should put the nets into the water, so I will.” The fishermen put their nets into the water. Their nets were filled with so many fish that they began to break. They called to their friends in the other boat to come and help them. The friends came, and both boats were filled so full of fish that they were almost sinking. 8-9 The fishermen were all amazed at the many fish they caught. When Simon Peter saw this, he bowed down before Jesus and said, “Go away from me, Lord. I am a sinful man!” 10 James and John, the sons of Zebedee, were amazed too. (James and John worked together with Simon.) Jesus said to Simon, “Don’t be afraid. From now on your work will be to bring in people, not fish!” 11 The men brought their boats to the shore. They left everything and followed Jesus.

John 1:28These things all happened at Bethany on the other side of the Jordan River. This is where John was baptizing people. 35 The next day John was there again and had two of his followers with him. 36 He saw Jesus walking by and said, “Look, the Lamb of God!”
37 The two followers heard him say this, so they followed Jesus. 38 Jesus turned and saw the two men following him. He asked, “What do you want?”
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40 These men followed Jesus after they had heard about him from John. One of them was Andrew, the brother of Simon Peter. 41 The first thing Andrew did was to go and find his brother Simon. Andrew said to him, “We have found the Messiah.” (“Messiah” means “Christ.”)42 Then Andrew brought Simon to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, “You are Simon, the son of John. You will be called Cephas.” (“Cephas” means “Peter.

Fourth Gosple tells the More fish cathching in Galilee lake after death of Jesus, as his appearance stories with resusticated body. Is this tale true?


John 21:1 Later, Jesus appeared again to his followers by Lake Galilee.[a] This is how it happened: Some of the followers were together—Simon Peter, Thomas (called Didymus), Nathanael from Cana in Galilee, the two sons of Zebedee, and two other followers. Simon Peter said, “I am going out to fish.” 3. The other followers said, “We will go with you.” So all of them went out and got into the boat. They fished that night but caught nothing. Early the next morning Jesus stood on the shore. But the followers did not know it was Jesus. Then he said to them, “Friends, have you caught any fish?” They answered, “No.”  He said, “Throw your net into the water on the right side of your boat. You will find some fish there.” So they did this. They caught so many fish that they could not pull the net back into the boat.
4th Gosple names one Nathanael not mentioned in any other names- or there is no where in Gospels that he is one of the 12 with another name.
Mark and Luke tales say Matthew - but only Matthew tales says he was the Tax Collector for Romans.

Matthew 9:9 When Jesus was leaving, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the place for collecting taxes. Jesus said to him, “Follow me.” So he got up and followed Jesus.
   Nathanael is identified as Bartholomew for which there is no PROOF IN 4 Gosple Tales.
LUKE Says Judas son of James, not mentioned that way at all in any other Tales.
MARK & Matthew has one Thaddaeus - now church tries to identify this as Judas son of James
not mentioned that way at all in any other Tales.
JAMES & JUDE - there are two letters included in New Tesament, both are said to be blood related brother of Jesus.
JUDE 1:1
Greetings from Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James.
இரண்டு கடிதத்தையும் இயேசுவின் உடன்பிறந்த சகோதரர்கள் (கிழே) எழுதியது என்பது சர்ச் 

Mark 6:3 Isn’t he just the carpenter we know—Mary’s son, the brother of James, Joses, Judas, and Simon? And don’t his sisters still live here in town?” So they had a problem accepting him.
Matthew 13:53 53 When Jesus finished teaching with these stories, he left there. 54 He went to the town where he grew up. He taught the people in the synagogue, and they were amazed. They said, “Where did this man get such wisdom and this power to do miracles? 55 Isn’t he just the son of the carpenter we know? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas? 56 And don’t all his sisters still live here in town?
CAN Jesus BROTHERS BE Disciple; because they did not believe him as this story tells

John 7:2It was time for the Jewish Festival of Shelters. So his brothers said to him, “You should leave here and go to the festival in Judea. Then your followers there can see the miracles you do. If you want to be well known, you must not hide what you do. So, if you can do such amazing things, let the whole world see you do them.” Jesus’ brothers said this because even they did not believe in him.
  JUDAS- There are 3 in this name in Gospel Tales.
1.
Judas Iscariot - As per many Syrian and Arab traditions he looked like Jesus. Muslims say he was crucified and not Jesus
http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/crucifixion_of_judas.htm
2. JUDE the Thaddaeus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_the_Apostle  -sometimes identified with Jude, “brother of Jesus”
 JUDE as per Church tradition looked like Jesus -
http://www.catholiccompany.com/getfed/saint-jude-thaddeus-surprisingly-popular-saint/
//As you know Saint Jude Thaddeus, according to tradition, looked like Jesus Christ!//   
3.JUDAS THOMAS; AS per apocryphal book "ACT OF THOMAS" Thomas looked alike as Jesus and is a twin by same birth, "THOMO" or "DIDIMUS" means twin. As per this book Judas Thomas was sold as a SLAVE By Jesus(Resusticated) to Gad a trader from country ruled by Gundafor for 30 Silver coines. Judas Thomas died in neighbouring Desert Country ruled by Mazdai

   

//..The Very name of the Apostle who is known as Thomas remains obscure. Thomas is the Greek form of the Aramic Teoma whose Greek Translation is Didymus, meaning – “Twin”, most probably his original name was Judas, and the Parentheses and the version variants could have been scribal clarification.How could an Apostle be known by an Epithet or adjective such as “Twin”-// ”PERSON AND FAITH OF Apostle Thomas in the Gospels, Fr.George Kaniarakath,CMI

Many Theolgians say Judas Thomas -Jude -Judas Iscariot could all be one and the same person a Twin brother by birth for Mary along with Jesus. As Thomas of Acts was look alike of Jesus and Jude is so, and as per tradition of Arabia – Judas Iscariout look alike of Jesus was actually the person Crucified.
 
GOSPLE STORY Writiers did not know Who Jesus and his family was, and each tale authoer tells differently
MATTHEW gOSPEL TALES                                                        
  luke gOSPEL TALES     

Matthew Jesus was son of Joseph who lived in Betlehem as a carpenter and this Joseph 40th generation from Abraham was son of Jacob.
LUKE’S JESUS was son of Joseph who lived in Nazareth and this Joseph 56th Generation from Abraham was son of Eli.

JESUS as per the EARLIEST Gospel Tales- written 40 years later than Death of Jesus; two generations later than the man's death- tells JESUS PUBLIC MINISTRY FROM Baptism of Repentance to Death was around 7- 8 months only.
Disciples as per stories of Acts of Apostles lived in Jerusalem together for 30 years.

THE Most Important Disciple Peter- how he joined is said variously by different tales WITH CONTRADICTIONS.  APOSTLES should have said the STORIES about JESUS, which by WORD OF MOUTH should have become GOSPEL TALES. 

APOSTLES - who they are itself HAS SO MANY CONTRADICTIVE STORIES &  UNRELIABILITY- WHAT IS THE WORTH OF GOSPEL FICTIONS.



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